Worldling9

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  what are your thoughts on this quote from the elders book?

  by aboveusonlysky in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  'in order to extend mercy, the committee must be convinced that the wrongdoer has a changed heart condition and that he has a zeal to right the wrong and is absolutely determined to avoid it in the future.'.

  shepherd the flock page 91. i remember this is one of the first things that concerned me as an elder because it seemed to sound like a person is guilty until proven innocent rather than 'love believes all things', especially given the word 'convinced' appears in bold.. then in a training video one elder said something like 'unless we are convinced of repentance the shepherd the flock book says we must disfellowship'.

  that was the begining of the end for me as i thought surely true christians would reason the other way round and show mercy wherever possible.. any thoughts?.

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  So they think they're cardiologists now...such ego!!
  
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  Major congregational quake in Southern California

  by Hecce in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

  a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

  the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

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  My father left a much younger surviving spouse. Each of us, his children, received a small sum and the remainder went to his wife. I think it was fair to everyone.
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  Week 16 Since My Disfellowshipping - Update

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys.

  i could really do with you advice regarding my current state since being disfellowshipped 16 weeks ago.. since being given the boot (i did try to fade but it failed) ive been on a rollacoaster of emotions.

  lately im getting frequent headaches, tiredness and i have about 3 or 4 thoughts running through my mind at all times.. im passed the sadness phase of discovering it's a cult.

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  It does sound like a grieving process and PTS symptoms. I recommend therapy to get some tools to help you deal with it. It's not easy and 'stuff' does come up from time to time, even when we've been out for years. What you are feeling sounds pretty normal given everything you've been through.
  
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  Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

  by Paul Mooney in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

  i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

  i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

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  Paul, thank you so much for sharing this. So glad your father was able to find a way to be honest with you and with himself. Many of us will never receive a gift like this.

  If he is in poor health, wouldn't a visit be considered 'necessary family business'?
  
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  CO visits me today

  by Chook in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm at home and hear knock on door , i sneak and look i see two men and recognise one voice and go back into lonunge and ask wife ( who is inactive believer) does she want to speak to elders ,she says no ,then literally 3 minutes has pasted another knock the 3 minutes seemed like an eternity.

  so brave heart me think fuck it i'll answer ,i invite them in for coffee, i recognise one older man he is a unique elder who i genuinely was fond of when i was in his name is andrew ,the other guy i didn't recognise we will call harry ( not real name australia doesn't have that many cos with his same name).

  so i think to myself i will tread lightly and not cause to much of a fuss for the wife's sake, but my personality is very the opposite of treading lightly ,as you read my threads you will realise i'm not timid.

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  Chook, you're the man. Excellent work.
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  Do Jehovah's Witnesses view the governing body differently since seeing them on the TV?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think this may be a bigger issue for the society than we realise.. when you consider that witnesses have now had well over a year of regularly seeing their 'channel to god' with their own eyes, what do you think they're thinking?.

  i'm going to put this as respectfully as i can; these men are clearly a bunch of utter clowns who are laughably inadequate to present a tv show, but also, they are now ridiculously discredited due to the absolute shite that they've spoken in these laughable productions.. consider things from a jw's perspective; tony morris, stephen lett & geoffrey jackson are 'the channel' that makes their religion 'special'.

  these men are the channel god is using to lead his people in the modern day.

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  Oh, it's 'special' all right...
  
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  What happens to the elders?

  by Worldling9 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with so many khs closing and congos consolidating, what happens to the elders?

  clearly there won't be a place for all of them.

  would the older ones be the first to go, losing their long held positions of 'power'?.

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  So...a 79 year old egomaniac COBOE probably would lose his position if 'his' congo were dissolved? Yes, I am thinking of someone in particular...
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  Rape Victim Forced To Listen To a Tape Of Her Assault In A JC

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is absolutely outrageous.

  a rape victim was forced to listen to herself being raped while the elders stopped and started the tape claiming she was consenting.

  even though during one of the assaults she was duct-taped, gagged and had a pillowcase over her head.

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  This survivor deserves a whole lotta money from the JWs...but no amount will be enough. They disgust me.
  
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  What happens to the elders?

  by Worldling9 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with so many khs closing and congos consolidating, what happens to the elders?

  clearly there won't be a place for all of them.

  would the older ones be the first to go, losing their long held positions of 'power'?.

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  With so many KHs closing and congos consolidating, what happens to the elders? Clearly there won't be a place for all of them. Would the older ones be the first to go, losing their long held positions of 'power'?
  
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  Elders removed in Northern PA. Congregation

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a close family member just informed me what happened during their last c.o.

  visit.

  this occurred 3 months ago.

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  What happens to the elders when a Congo is dissolved? Do the elderly ones lose their positions because they are about to age out anyway?